It’s Never Ending There – Homes Atop Former Tustin Air Base Near the Hangar Fire May Have Toxic Groundwater Too – More Crocodile Tears from Officials

Tustin residents watched in horror last week as one of the two hangars left from former Marine Corps Air Station Tustin burned to the ground, dumping 80-year-old asbestos into the air that local health agencies didn’t notify them about for days.

But this isn’t the first time public agencies have failed to inform Tustin residents about the health dangers of living next to a former marine air base.

A Voice of OC investigation found the U.S. Navy sent out identical letters to three homeowners associations near the base in Nov. 2021, notifying them that the groundwater under their homes could be contaminated with toxic runoff from the base and that they planned to do more studies.

But those letters never actually made it into the hands of dozens of residents who Voice of OC spoke with, and in multiple cases the homeowners associations deny ever receiving the letters in the first place or won’t speak about them.

City leaders have largely avoided talking about the issue, saying it’s not their responsibility to clean up the base and that the drinking water is safe because it’s imported from the Irvine Ranch Water District.

Two years after those letters, it’s still unclear how contaminated the land under those homes is because the Navy hasn’t finished their studies, leaving over 10,000 residents living on and next to the base in the dark on whether or not their groundwater is safe.

What Was Dumped at the Base?

The letters from the Navy warned residents their groundwater could be contaminated with polyfluoroalkyl substances or PFAS, also known as “forever chemicals,” because they take so long to break down.

Those chemicals are associated with cancer, liver damage, decreased fertility, and increased risk of asthma and thyroid disease, according to the Center for Disease Control.

“The Navy has identified at least one (area of interest) that is located on or near your property. While there are no known immediate risks to human health or the environment, the Navy is proactively investigating (areas of interest),” wrote Kyle Olewnik, the then-Base Realignment and Closure Environmental Coordinator for the Navy, in the letter. “To that end, the Navy is currently preparing work plans outlining the initial investigation of soil and additional investigation of groundwater.”

The letter came after the Navy was sued in 2019 because it withheld documents about how bad the contamination was.

Sampling for forever chemicals at the site began in 2017.

People can be exposed to forever chemicals by drinking exposed water or swallowing contaminated soil according to the CDC. Long-term exposure can lead to various cancers, alongside health consequences for children and fetuses.

Christopher Kim, a professor and environmental geochemist at Chapman University, described forever chemicals as “regulated chemicals” that “have documented adverse health outcomes in humans.”

“Levels above regulatory limits,” he continued, “Represent a potential risk to residents, although the degree of risk depends on their actions.”

There’s also no question on if chemicals were dumped at the base, including through burn pits, storage tank leaks and just dumping things like leftover jet fuel over the side of the runway.

“The general practice was to dump the substances on the ground, bury them, or in more recent years dispose of them in burn pits,” said Chapman Environmental Law Professor Denis Binder.

Who’s In Charge of the Cleanup?

Tustin leaders claim they’re not responsible for any of the cleanup and are waiting on the Navy to get their house in order.

“The City is not the lead on remediation at former MCAS Tustin,” said Tustin senior management analyst Kenneth Piguee in a Dec. 2022 email, saying clean-up responsibility was on the Navy. “The City reviews all reports and work plans.”

An August 2022 report from Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command Southwest showed groundwater contamination levels far exceeding safe levels set by the federal government at several locations on the former Marine base.

Despite the report, Navy officials said they have no idea how much groundwater pollution has spread outside of the base’s footprint.

Officials also don’t have a firm date by which they’ll finish sampling the water.

The Navy is awaiting approval of a proposed work plan that involves primarily drilling new groundwater wells, taking additional groundwater samples, taking initial soil samples, and assessing the ecological risk forever chemicals could pose.

They hope to start implementing the plan in late 2024.

Off-base groundwater sampling is not in the current work plan proposal.

The Navy follows CERCLA regulations, an EPA act that outlines procedures for responding to hazardous substances released into the environment.

Forever chemicals are currently not a controlled substance under the act, but are expected to be added in 2024, wrote Navy spokesperson Elizabeth Roddy in a statement.

Although the chemicals are known to be contaminating the groundwater in the area, the drinking water servicing the communities comes from Irvine Ranch Water District (IRWD) and contains no detectable levels of these chemicals.

Who Was Supposed to Tell the Residents?

Since the base’s closure in 1999, most of the land it sat on has been converted into various housing developments, dubbed the Tustin Legacy project.

Not one of the dozens of residents Voice of OC interviewed in neighborhoods recalled receiving Nov. 2021 letter from the Navy.

Navy officials didn’t tell residents directly, instead sending a warning letter to three homeowners associations – Columbus Square, Greenwood and Anton Legacy – which all sit on the site of the former base.

None of the managers of these neighborhoods acknowledge having received it in interviews.

Columbus Square Manager Holly Dawson refused to say whether her homeowners’ association received or distributed the letter to its residents, but Voice of OC confirmed warning about the land being still in remediation was in the homebuyers disclosure as early as 2008.

Greenwood staff member Nathan Straiter said the person to whom the Navy’s 2021 letter was addressed left the company in 2019. It appears that the Navy sent the letter to an email address that hadn’t been in use for two years.

Straiter said he has no knowledge of any of his colleagues having ever received information regarding the forever chemicals.

No one at Anton Legacy knew anything about the issue.

The city of Tustin has one page on their website about the cleanup.

Navy-led meetings discussing forever chemicals cleanup are advertised on the Navy’s website and in both the LA Times and OC Register. The meetings are held twice a year at the Tustin Senior Center.

Despite this advertising, Santa Ana Regional Water Quality Control Board Manager Patricia Hannon recalled only a couple of residents, if any, at previous meetings.

The Navy will not contact homeowners directly unless there is a need to sample on their property according to Navy spokesperson Elizabeth Roddy and Remedial Project Manager Chris Ota.

Ota said the earliest they can expect to notify property owners is spring of 2024.

How Did Local Leaders Respond?

After the hangar fire, Orange County’s political core swung into action.

Tustin Mayor Austin Lumbard called on the Navy to immediately clean up the wreckage.

“We will be demanding the Navy’s immediate attention and resources are provided for site cleanup and further demolition,” Lumbard wrote in a statement last Wednesday.

County Supervisor Don Wagner, chair of the board and Tustin’s representative, declared a countywide state of emergency over the fire.

Ten representatives, including Tustin’s Congresswoman Young Kim, sent a letter to the Navy demanding answers on the hangar fire and asking for residents to be informed what was being done to clean up the debris.

But when asked repeatedly about the issues with groundwater, it was a much different response.

The city manager, the city clerk and every city council member outside the mayor wouldn’t speak on it. Kim refused to respond to repeated requests for information, and Assemblymember Cottie Petrie-Norris had no comment.

Starting in February, Chapman students called and emailed the city manager six times, the city clerk five times, city council members three or four times each, Rep. Kim six times, Assemblymember Petrie-Norris three times, and state Senator Dave Min four times.

Those who did respond, including Tustin Communications Manager Stephanie Najera and Roddy, failed to identify any imminent plans to directly inform residents about the presence of dangerous chemicals beneath their property.

Wagner said the county has nothing to do with the issue, but that they are “monitoring” the situation.

Lumbard didn’t respond to 13 requests for comment over the past year, but agreed to speak to the issue on Monday afternoon in the wake of the ongoing north hangar fire, adding that he’d been made aware of the issue when he purchased a home in Columbus Square and another in Greenwood from developers.

While he praised the city’s webpage about the issue, he said it wasn’t their responsibility to inform homeowners, and that when the city approved developments on or near the former base they did it away from the worst of the pollution sites.

“But ultimately it’s the Navy’s obligation and once it’s owned by a developer it’s their obligation as well,” Lumbard said. “I was fully informed and the builders I purchased my home from fully disclosed it.”

He also noted that he had never received the HOA letter from the Navy.

“Our developers are very transparent about the risks in the soil and what’s prohibited or not,” he said. “There’s probably room for further communication on the Navy’s front.”

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More than 70 Orange County firefighters battled a stubborn fire at one of two iconic, 17-story-high hangars at the shuttered Tustin Air Base early Tuesday morning, Nov. 7, authorities said, a blaze that will lead to the hangar’s demolition.

The cause of the fire — and where it began — so far were unclear.

Fire crews were called to the north hangar in Tustin just before 12:55 a.m. and began attacking the blaze with a defensive strategy from outside the building, Orange County Fire Authority Capt. Thanh Nguyen said.

No injuries were reported and firefighters did not believe anyone was inside the building when the fire broke out, he added.

“The biggest fear is collapse and getting our firefighters injured,” Nguyen said.

OCFA Chief Brian Fennessy said at a morning news conference the fire was expected to stretch across the length of the hangar, which will ultimately “need to be demolished”.

He said it could take a lengthy amount of time before the fire was out. When firefighters arrived, the blaze was intense.

“We expect the fire to continue … possibly until it gets to the other side of the hangar, and whether that be the end of the day, tomorrow — whether it stops at some point in between, we don’t know,” Fennessy said. “So at this point we’re standing back, keeping people and firefighters away and we’re watching.”

Flames tore through the roof of the massive structure. There appears to have been a partial roof collapse.

In fact, just before 6:30 a.m., firefighters said they planned to allow the hangar to collapse so that ground crews “can move in closer, and aggressively work to extinguish the fire.”

Firefighters at one point received assistance from helicopters, including a Boeing CH-47 Chinook, which can drop up to 3,000 gallons of water.

“It’s not a regular tactic to use a helicopter for a structure fire — however, this is not a regular fire, either,” Nguyen said.

“It was felt that perhaps — with our agency helicopter and the large Chinook — it was possible for us to maybe slow it down and maybe get our ladder trucks in close enough to be able to slow it down,” Fennessy said. “That was not the case, so we cancelled them and returned them.”

Smoke rising from the hangar was going straight up.

Arson investigators were on the scene. Police do regular patrol checks of the hangars, Tustin Chief Stu Greenberg said. He asked anyone with information about the fire or any activity at the hangar in previous days to call police.

The fire is in one of two hangars that once housed blimps used in World War II and later provided cover for military helicopters.

The hangars were built in 1942 during World War II, Fennessy said, and are two of the largest wooden structures ever constructed. They were named historic civil engineering landmarks in 1993.

The hangars have been featured in television and films, including for ”JAG, ” ”The X Files,” ”Austin Powers,” ”Pearl Harbor ” and ”Star Trek.”

For some time, there were plans to raze the north hangar and use the space to construct homes and a regional park, but plans never materialized. In August 2021, the City Council voted to scrap the park and maintain the site.

Tustin Mayor Austin Lumbard called it a sad day for the city and said the two hangars are more than just structures.

“It’s a personal thing to a lot of (the) Tustin community,” Lumbard said. “They mean so much to the city’s past, to the region’s military history.”

Before the fire, Lumbard said, a decision hadn’t been made on the ultimate faith for the north hangar. It was damaged by heavy winds in 2013 and had been supported by two cranes.

“It’s just been kind of sitting there, damaged,” Lumbard said. “There’s community sentiment that wants to save the hangars, (but it’s) very very cost prohibitive to repair those things and bring them up to commercial code.”

Lumbard said the city looks forward to collaborating on what ultimately will happen to the remaining hangar and the 85 acres surrounding it.

The city, he said, has recently invested in new fencing, adding no trespassing signs and cutting overgrown vegetation in the area.

Councilmember Letitia Clark said the U.S. Navy needed to do more.

“I think we did everything we could in our power to really ensure that the site was clean and safe,” Clark said. “I think the hindsight-20/20 part is really more on the Navy.”

Clark said the city has an operational agreement with the Navy, which owns both hangars.

“I hope that the Navy is now aware that there’s probably more that they could have done,” Clark said. “And, hopefully, there’s more they can do now in terms of helping us move forward with making sure the site is clean and that we can move forward to fully transitioning ownership of the (south) hangar from them to us.”

U.S. Navy officials could not be reached comment.

Tuesday morning, every few minutes, the dying structure emitted a loud, low rumble as the metal and wood inner lattice still holding up the curved roof started to give way, sending debris crashing down to the hangar floor in burning heaps.

By 9 a.m., fire crackled along the edges of the gaping hole now making up nearly half of the old hangar. Flames ripped through the interior, bursting through the hangar’s outer shell in spots.

The powerful fire created a billowing column of brownish, white smoke that helped ripped panels from the outside of the building, sending them twirling up in the air like confetti.

The loud snaps and pops of flames and the explosions periodically rumbling through the old structure served as the death throes of one of Orange County’s most iconic buildings.

Like giant soda cans tipped over in the sand, the twin, hulking hangars at the air base have sat here for longer than many locals have called Orange County home.

The air base was one of the first sights Curtis Schneider, 61, could remember when his family first drove through the area after moving here in the 1970s.

In a T-shirt, shorts, sandals and sunglasses, Schneider stood just behind the open driver’s side door of his car, holding his phone up to capture the destruction. When one loud blast roared from the burning building, he tensed up.

“Whoa!” he said, as others in the group of about 50 onlookers hooted and hollered. Still watching, Schneider took a quick drag from his vape pen.

He recalled standing on the floor of the hangar beneath its towering walls for different events over the years, when visitors were still allowed inside.

“We saw car shows in there, helicopter shows,” Schneider said. “We had some good times in that hangar.”

Tammy Murphy, 65, looked on in horror and wonder as decades of Southern California history burned to the ground in front of her. Murphy stood with her two grandchildren just behind a chain-link fence about a quarter of a mile from the hangar.

“Oh my god — so many emotions,” she said. “These were here when I was a kid growing up.”

She remembered seeing the Blue Angels perform here. Her father was in the military and would take her to shop at the base grocery store.

“It was bustling,” Murphy said, before the facility was closed for good in the 1990s.

Local officials tried for years to develop a plan for what to do with the hangars. It’s a history Schneider said he knew well. He answered his cellphone and spoke to the caller on speaker phone.

“That’s a historic building,” the caller said.

Schneider replied: “It was.”

Red embers could be seen along the remaining roof edge, with and smoke billowing up.

Lori Spiak, a lifelong Tustin resident, gasped at the sight.

Spiak said she hopes the south hangar is maintained — she and her friends have talked about how it could be turned into a concert venue or a soundstage.

Adora Cole said the hangar has been a fixture in her life since she was a child; she remembers Marines going by in with their pickups trucks when it was an active base.

“My heart is just broken,” Cole said. “It’s so close to home. It’s very, very upsetting.”

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“The “Greed” and “Crocodile Tears” at Corrupt City Hall and from Corrupt Developers was “Unstoppable” and now People and Kids are “Exposed” to the Toxic Horrors – This could be Tustin’s Toxic 9/11 – there could be a mass human exodus from that land – abandoned homes – schools – businesses – never ending lawsuits and Toxic cleanup – remember there’s another Hangar too!”

Capriotti’s to close – when KCI Investments opened the first Capriotti’s franchise at The District shopping center in Tustin, the company told the Register it planned to open 35 sub shops in Orange County

Capriotti’s to close all O.C. sub shop locations today

Capriotti’s Sandwich Shop said it will close all of its Orange County locations by the end of the Wednesday.

The abrupt closure of the four shops, which first landed in the county in 2012, is tied to an apparent flap between the corporate-run chain and its local franchisee. The locations are Irvine, Tustin, Newport Beach and Fountain Valley.

“Capriotti’s Sandwich Shop has decided to end a relationship with one of our franchisees,” Chief Executive Ashley Morris said. “We are committed to bringing quality subs to people across the country and are actively looking for partners in the area to keep our tradition alive in Orange County.”

Capriotti’s confirmed two Dallas locations, run by the same O.C. franchisee, are also closing. Clark County, Nevada shops, run by the franchisee, will remain open.

The chain would not elaborate on the closures, only stating the departure from Orange County is temporary.

Capriotti’s “will be back in Orange County soon, no doubt about it,” Morris said.

The self-described In-N-Out of sandwich shops was founded in Delaware in 1976. It is known for its daily in-store roasting of whole turkeys. Its most popular cold sub, The Bobbie, is made with pulled roasted turkey meat, cranberry sauce and stuffing.

When KCI Investments opened the first Capriotti’s franchise at The District shopping center in Tustin, the company told the Register it planned to open 35 sub shops in Orange County, 35 in San Diego and 60 in the Dallas area. In 2014, with 12 stores open in Nevada, Dallas and Orange County, KCI was purchased by Florida-based Dixi Foods International.

Dixi Foods did not return a call seeking comment.

The shuttering of Capriotti’s comes as several sub players have entered the market. Jersey Mike’s, Mendocino Farms, Which Wich, Firehouse Subs and Earl of Sandwich have opened across Orange County.

Independent, chef-driven eateries are also cropping up, including Sessions West Coast Deli, Bronx Sandwich Co., The Kroft, and The Trough Sandwich Kitchen.

https://www.ocregister.com/articles/county-682926-orange-sandwich.html

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