Almost Immediately the City of Tustin Began Selling Off their “Free Toxic Hangar Land” to Developers – Who In Turn – Sold it Off as Apartment Homes – Offices – Shopping Centers – Medical Buildings and to “Home Builders” and then – to “You” – But Now – Your Dream Home Property Value “Just Got Reduced to “Junk” Status” – Where Did All that Money Go? Orange County Assessor: Tustin Fire Could Tank Property Values.

Orange County Assessor: Tustin Fire Could Tank Property Values

BY NOAH BIESIADA

Tustin homeowners could see a drop in their property taxes after an old air base hangar burned to the ground, showering the surrounding area in ash and debris containing asbestos.

“This is a disaster,” said County Assessor Claude Parrish in an interview. “You think anyone’s going to want to buy your home right now? No, it’s economic damage.”

“The damage could be for years,” he continued. “Who wants to buy something when you’re near that?”

Now, the county tax assessor is sending out over 23,000 notices to homeowners surrounding the ruins of the hangar, notifying them that they need to submit applications if they want their property values reassessed due to any damage to their homes.

Parrish, who lives near the hangar, said he tried to avoid going home during the fire because he could see the asbestos showering over his house.

“I’ve had flakes as big as a half an inch square,” Parrish said. “We had to put up with that for days.”

It’s unclear just how many homes could see an adjustment, with the letters noting the assessor will “make value adjustments as appropriate,” and stating that any property that suffered over $10,000 in damage “may be eligible for a temporary value adjustment.”

Property taxes are one of the pillars that fund cities and local school boards, meaning any adjustment could see a dip in funding for the agencies that rely on them.

For example, property taxes contributed roughly $23 million to Tustin’s overall $84 million general fund budget during its last fiscal year.

However, Parrish noted it was too early to make any determination on what the impact would be to local tax collection.

Tustin Mayor Austin Lumbard criticized the roll out of the notices, saying the assessor’s office didn’t send any messages to the city and he found out about the issue when it showed up in his own mailbox.

“The assessor sending something out about property damage without coordinating with anyone … could potentially lead to unnecessary alarm for other residents,” Lumbard said in a Monday interview. “Getting a letter like this is not helpful.”

Parrish said he isn’t required to work with any local agencies, and that he’s required by law to run tests like this after a major fire.

“There’s a loss in value definitely, the question is how much,” Parrish said. “We’re going to do a survey and find out how much.”

The Future of the Hangars

The final pieces of the hangar came down last Thursday, when demolition crews knocked down the doors that have stood since the 1940s – the last piece of the hangar that was still standing following the fire.

The future of the land is also up in the air, after Tustin leaders shot down plans from the county government to turn the spot into a regional park because they took too long to develop it.

The south hangar, which was unaffected by the blaze that burned down the hangar to the north, is also still waiting on future plans, but the site is too expensive for most people to use according to Lumbard.

“I probably get a call every week with someone who has an idea for it,” Lumbard said. “When we get to the point of actually engaging with these folks and explain the challenges, how there’s no active utilities, the challenges of cost and upkeep, they often back away.”

The city has already budgeted $8 million to try and get the hangar to the point that it can operate, and occasionally hosts events there, but right now it’s still costing the city money every year.

“We’re interested in talking with the right folks,” Lumbard said. “But it’s going to take someone with serious financing to come in.”

Noah Biesiada is a Voice of OC reporter and corps member with Report for America, a GroundTruth initiative. Contact him at [email protected] or on Twitter @NBiesiada.

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More than 70 Orange County firefighters battled a stubborn fire at one of two iconic, 17-story-high hangars at the shuttered Tustin Air Base early Tuesday morning, Nov. 7, authorities said, a blaze that will lead to the hangar’s demolition.

The cause of the fire — and where it began — so far were unclear.

Fire crews were called to the north hangar in Tustin just before 12:55 a.m. and began attacking the blaze with a defensive strategy from outside the building, Orange County Fire Authority Capt. Thanh Nguyen said.

No injuries were reported and firefighters did not believe anyone was inside the building when the fire broke out, he added.

“The biggest fear is collapse and getting our firefighters injured,” Nguyen said.

OCFA Chief Brian Fennessy said at a morning news conference the fire was expected to stretch across the length of the hangar, which will ultimately “need to be demolished”.

He said it could take a lengthy amount of time before the fire was out. When firefighters arrived, the blaze was intense.

“We expect the fire to continue … possibly until it gets to the other side of the hangar, and whether that be the end of the day, tomorrow — whether it stops at some point in between, we don’t know,” Fennessy said. “So at this point we’re standing back, keeping people and firefighters away and we’re watching.”

Flames tore through the roof of the massive structure. There appears to have been a partial roof collapse.

In fact, just before 6:30 a.m., firefighters said they planned to allow the hangar to collapse so that ground crews “can move in closer, and aggressively work to extinguish the fire.”

Firefighters at one point received assistance from helicopters, including a Boeing CH-47 Chinook, which can drop up to 3,000 gallons of water.

“It’s not a regular tactic to use a helicopter for a structure fire — however, this is not a regular fire, either,” Nguyen said.

“It was felt that perhaps — with our agency helicopter and the large Chinook — it was possible for us to maybe slow it down and maybe get our ladder trucks in close enough to be able to slow it down,” Fennessy said. “That was not the case, so we cancelled them and returned them.”

Smoke rising from the hangar was going straight up.

Arson investigators were on the scene. Police do regular patrol checks of the hangars, Tustin Chief Stu Greenberg said. He asked anyone with information about the fire or any activity at the hangar in previous days to call police.

The fire is in one of two hangars that once housed blimps used in World War II and later provided cover for military helicopters.

The hangars were built in 1942 during World War II, Fennessy said, and are two of the largest wooden structures ever constructed. They were named historic civil engineering landmarks in 1993.

The hangars have been featured in television and films, including for ”JAG, ” ”The X Files,” ”Austin Powers,” ”Pearl Harbor ” and ”Star Trek.”

For some time, there were plans to raze the north hangar and use the space to construct homes and a regional park, but plans never materialized. In August 2021, the City Council voted to scrap the park and maintain the site.

Tustin Mayor Austin Lumbard called it a sad day for the city and said the two hangars are more than just structures.

“It’s a personal thing to a lot of (the) Tustin community,” Lumbard said. “They mean so much to the city’s past, to the region’s military history.”

Before the fire, Lumbard said, a decision hadn’t been made on the ultimate faith for the north hangar. It was damaged by heavy winds in 2013 and had been supported by two cranes.

“It’s just been kind of sitting there, damaged,” Lumbard said. “There’s community sentiment that wants to save the hangars, (but it’s) very very cost prohibitive to repair those things and bring them up to commercial code.”

Lumbard said the city looks forward to collaborating on what ultimately will happen to the remaining hangar and the 85 acres surrounding it.

The city, he said, has recently invested in new fencing, adding no trespassing signs and cutting overgrown vegetation in the area.

Councilmember Letitia Clark said the U.S. Navy needed to do more.

“I think we did everything we could in our power to really ensure that the site was clean and safe,” Clark said. “I think the hindsight-20/20 part is really more on the Navy.”

Clark said the city has an operational agreement with the Navy, which owns both hangars.

“I hope that the Navy is now aware that there’s probably more that they could have done,” Clark said. “And, hopefully, there’s more they can do now in terms of helping us move forward with making sure the site is clean and that we can move forward to fully transitioning ownership of the (south) hangar from them to us.”

U.S. Navy officials could not be reached comment.

Tuesday morning, every few minutes, the dying structure emitted a loud, low rumble as the metal and wood inner lattice still holding up the curved roof started to give way, sending debris crashing down to the hangar floor in burning heaps.

By 9 a.m., fire crackled along the edges of the gaping hole now making up nearly half of the old hangar. Flames ripped through the interior, bursting through the hangar’s outer shell in spots.

The powerful fire created a billowing column of brownish, white smoke that helped ripped panels from the outside of the building, sending them twirling up in the air like confetti.

The loud snaps and pops of flames and the explosions periodically rumbling through the old structure served as the death throes of one of Orange County’s most iconic buildings.

Like giant soda cans tipped over in the sand, the twin, hulking hangars at the air base have sat here for longer than many locals have called Orange County home.

The air base was one of the first sights Curtis Schneider, 61, could remember when his family first drove through the area after moving here in the 1970s.

In a T-shirt, shorts, sandals and sunglasses, Schneider stood just behind the open driver’s side door of his car, holding his phone up to capture the destruction. When one loud blast roared from the burning building, he tensed up.

“Whoa!” he said, as others in the group of about 50 onlookers hooted and hollered. Still watching, Schneider took a quick drag from his vape pen.

He recalled standing on the floor of the hangar beneath its towering walls for different events over the years, when visitors were still allowed inside.

“We saw car shows in there, helicopter shows,” Schneider said. “We had some good times in that hangar.”

Tammy Murphy, 65, looked on in horror and wonder as decades of Southern California history burned to the ground in front of her. Murphy stood with her two grandchildren just behind a chain-link fence about a quarter of a mile from the hangar.

“Oh my god — so many emotions,” she said. “These were here when I was a kid growing up.”

She remembered seeing the Blue Angels perform here. Her father was in the military and would take her to shop at the base grocery store.

“It was bustling,” Murphy said, before the facility was closed for good in the 1990s.

Local officials tried for years to develop a plan for what to do with the hangars. It’s a history Schneider said he knew well. He answered his cellphone and spoke to the caller on speaker phone.

“That’s a historic building,” the caller said.

Schneider replied: “It was.”

Red embers could be seen along the remaining roof edge, with and smoke billowing up.

Lori Spiak, a lifelong Tustin resident, gasped at the sight.

Spiak said she hopes the south hangar is maintained — she and her friends have talked about how it could be turned into a concert venue or a soundstage.

Adora Cole said the hangar has been a fixture in her life since she was a child; she remembers Marines going by in with their pickups trucks when it was an active base.

“My heart is just broken,” Cole said. “It’s so close to home. It’s very, very upsetting.”

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Jan Crouch, co-founder of one of the world’s largest Christian broadcasting networks, died early Tuesday of a massive stroke at 78 – before a truce could be called in her family’s painfully public civil war – Nothing Says ‪‎Jesus Loves You‬ Better – than ‪‎Uber‬ ‪‎Fabulous‬ ‎Gay Sex‬ at ‪‎Church‬

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Tustin, California –

Jan Crouch, co-founder of one of the world’s largest Christian broadcasting networks, died early Tuesday of a massive stroke at 78 – before a truce could be called in her family’s painfully public civil war.

Alongside her late husband, Paul, Crouch built Orange County-based Trinity Broadcasting Network from a vision Paul had while tooling down MacArthur Boulevard into a religious empire spanning the globe with nearly $1 billion in net assets.

Trinity’s religious programming – designed to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ to the world, and built on the “Have a need? Plant a seed” philosophy – can be seen throughout Europe, Central and South America, the Middle East, Africa, Russia, Southeast Asia and the South Pacific islands, among many other locations.

Crouch’s death leaves the prosperity-gospel empire in the hands of her younger son, Matthew Crouch. Cut out of the picture almost entirely was her eldest son, Paul Crouch Jr., and his family. Members of the Crouch Jr. clan hadn’t seen Jan Crouch for years, and learned of her passing through news reports, family members said.

In a statement on Trinity Broadcasting’s web site, son Matthew and his wife Laurie said they “just watched the transition of our precious Mother from this world to the next; watched her step into the presence of Jesus and into her heavenly reward.

“Those who battled for the Kingdom of God knew her as a fighter — someone who didn’t give up, someone who fought relentlessly to get the Gospel around the world,” it continued. “ She has taken a piece of our hearts with her, but it’s so wonderful to know that Paul and Jan Crouch are together again, in the arms of Jesus.”

For those on Paul Crouch Jr.’s side of the family, the news was devastating.

“Today was a day I never thought would happen,” said Brandon Crouch, Paul Jr.’s son, on Instagram. “I can still hear her voice as she tells the heart-wrenching story. Grandma: ‘Brannie, what would you like for Christmas this year?’ Me: ‘For my grandma to live forever.’

“Your legacy will be in me forever… I love you grammie,” Brandon Crouch wrote. “Wish my son would have had a chance to meet you, and wish I could have seen you at least once in the last six years.”

Brandon Crouch and his sisters, Brittany Crouch Koper and Carra Crouch, hadn’t seen Jan Crouch because of the family’s brutal infighting. Both sisters are suing Trinity.

Brittany Crouch Koper has accused the mighty Christian broadcaster of playing fast and loose with the ministry’s millions, and provided internal documents to back up her claims.

Carra Crouch alleges that she was plied with alcohol and raped by a TBN employee in Atlanta when she was just 13 – and that her family covered up the incident rather than report it to authorities, to protect TBN’s reputation.

Trinity says it’s all untrue. It accused the Kopers of engaging in an inflammatory smear campaign to divert attention from their own financial sins against Trinity.

Trinity has filed a half-dozen suits against Brittany Crouch Koper and her husband Michael Koper, charging them with stealing some $1.3 million during their years of employ with Trinity, as well as a trove of privileged documents that they’ve inserted into the court record in “dribs and drabs” in an attempt to blackmail and destroy the network. The Kopers said they just want the ship of Trinity’s mission righted and set back on course.

On the rape allegation, Trinity has argued that many adults with a more direct line of authority over Carra Crouch apparently failed to take her to a doctor or to call police after the alleged incident. Those adults would be far more culpable than anyone at Trinity if, indeed, the facts she claims are true, an attorney for Trinity said at Carra Crouch’s deposition in 2014.

The ongoing legal battles with Trinity have bankrupted Brittany Koper Crouch, who went from beloved granddaughter to exiled accuser.

Brittany Koper Crouch and her grandmother grew very close when Brittany was in high school in Irvine. “She was every girl’s dream come true,” Koper told the Register in 2012. “She has a funny sense of humor – really different from what you see on TV. We’d talk about boys, gossip, get magazines and look through at the celebrities. It was a teenage-girl type of relationship. She’s the one who encouraged me to dye my hair blonde, wear blue contacts and go on a diet. When she lived in the mansion in Newport Beach, I’d go over and she’d do my make up and put her wigs on me. We’d go to movies together; she’d take me on shopping sprees for clothes, and when I went away to college, I was very homesick. She’s the first person I would call to talk to.”

After Brittany Koper Crouch made her accusations against Trinity, “it’s like I’m dead to them,” Koper Crouch said. Jan Crouch didn’t answer calls. On a recent Christmas day, Crouch Koper sent Jan Crouch a text that said, ‘Grandmom, I love you so much no matter what. Thank you so much for teaching me about Jesus.’”

She didn’t hear back.

Reference:

Trinity Broadcasting Network
Television Station
Address: 2442 Michelle Dr, Tustin, CA 92780
https://www.tbn.org/

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/septemberweb-only/9-13-11.0.html

https://www.ocregister.com/articles/crouch-717690-trinity-koper.html

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